Since our cozy blogs are now open and attractive for “suitable content” from YouTube, I consider it necessary to clarify the moment by “assembly of the best pitch in the world” and other heresies. Rather, it was just a catalyst. User megasboards most often comprehend the same problem – the choice of BP. That the processor is needed more powerful, the video card is more abruptly, the cooling is more browning, more memory, BP with decent powerful characteristics, so that all this is suitable for each other and was packed in a beautiful case – even the younger schoolchildren know. Here it is – a universal recipe for assembling a game PC. And this is really so … if you sell them.
In principle, if you are aware of the simple fact that cheaper goods just do not become like that. That by saving in production, the manufacturer reduces the consumer qualities of the goods. Then everything below written is unlikely to be very useful for you.
I will not paint the best assemblies for n thousand rubles, because it is simply pointless. There are a lot of purely highly highly specialized moments, which you need to pay attention to with a limited budget: SSD, RAID, volume and speed of RAM, “pore”, productivity to the core … And the answer to too general the question: “What is the best PC for games is best?" – Game console. So far, you will sign all these categories in detail (which is probably impossible at all), the market situation will change more than once. There are, of course, some general trends and recommendations, but even here there is no only correct common opinion.
And do not perceive all the following truth in the last instance. Still, I am a simple amateur, not a seasoned service or an electrical engineer.
To begin with, it is necessary to reveal one important point spilling the light on “purchased reviews”, “opinions of specialists” and the like persimmon. In my opinion, this moment is well illustrated by one review on the "Market".
It can be seen that out of 50 blocks, most of the time worked normally four months. And, most likely, and a year later, most of them will remain in the ranks. Yes, such a percentage of marriage is simply catastrophic, but we are talking about blocks that a sane person can purchase at a home computer, only in a state of blurred reason. Even in the budget. To be clearer, I have an assembly that works from a power supply for LED tapes, and this is more expensive and reliable than such a miracle. More popular options that are considered versed and so on the shit people have a percentage of “marriage” much lower.
If you crush your brains a little, then you can trace the difference in the opinions of ordinary inhabitants and people in the topic of versed. Say, for 1000, sold in a certain geographical area, the motherboard of one popular company, 100 problematic. And on a thousand motherboard of another popular company – only ten. The master is, of course, only problematic. Accordingly, he sees the approximate ratio of marriage between these brands, perhaps determine the reason why these motherboards fail and will be a well -founded opinion that more reliable. But for an ordinary person, there will be no particular difference. Purely theoretically, he can run into problems in both versions, but the likelihood that he will meet these problems in practice is quite small.
I even agree with the memory of the huper ha with radiators, motherboard with backlight and plastic plugs on radiators, vidyuhi for ITX buildings and the foal foil buildings themselves in your budget buildings. Of course, beauty is more important than reliability and functionality.
400 watts (no) – but no more. APFC (not again). Certificate 80+ (and it is not either). 8-Pin Nutrition for the Mount (and here I did not pay attention, but even if there is, a very useful feature for such a titanium, yeah)- I don’t know where the “Mamkins collectors” look at. After all, such a treasure disappears in obscurity
However, do not think that you can take an chehm and not steam at all. Just the same, in the case of a power supply, this is not so. In fact, this is the heart of your PC. It drives electric blood through metal veins. If you sprinkle a hard drive – you will get on a hard drive (and may also restore data). If vidyuha burns – you will get on the vidyuhu. In case of problems with PSU, you have a non -illusory chance to get to all this at once and even more. Therefore, the balance is important. Are you ready to risk tens of thousands of rubles in order to save only a couple? Even in gambling, somehow the opposite. And there is no much sense to take a powerful Gold block in the assembly for paperwork and multimedia. But it makes no sense to take the cheapest one at all. The difference of a thousand rubles is stupidly not at least the loss of your time, even if you are a schoolboy or student and you have a paste of this time.
Wah, how stylish. Powerful and inexpensive. The student’s dream
Here again we need to make a retreat. Memory blocks will still work. You will connect iron to such and it will start. And the next day everything will work. Most likely, in a month, and even in a year there will be no problems … at first glance. In general, iron is now completely unpretentious. So what, that 12 volts under load issues 11.5 (check with a multimeter, you can’t believe the motherboard sensors in this), this is nonsense. Well, figs with them with pulsations (and here we need an oscilloscope) – this is also not such a big problem … For everything except a hard disk. Simply, at one "wonderful" moment he will begin to tell you "KRA". This is not yet fatal, but this is already a fairly late stage of the problem. And taking into account the very worsened quality of the screws, this moment may come soon enough. That is, having won in the same lottery, you still lost and slowly (and something not slowly), you dutage the rest of the iron, greatly reducing its resource, and, accordingly, lose money.
And this is an excerpt from the review to that handsome man with yellow cooler. The point is especially pleasing to the joy of connecting the additional video of vidyuha, against the background of minuses. Well, what can go wrong here?
And now I will tell about the triple “deception” associated with power indicators in cheap PSU.
1) The power of 12 volts is important. A video card, processor, hard drives – all this eats, first of all, this line. On cheap blocks, the seller modestly indicates the total capacity on all lines.
2) Indicate the "peak" power, without the litter, that it is, in fact, the peak. Type, the line is able to give so much, but not for long. What is pointless for the user.
3) The filling of PSU is simply not adapted for work even on values significantly lower than peak. Weak element base, which allows you to pass through such currents. Insufficient radiators that do not cope with the scattering of heat under a large load. Further, overheated capacitors are much faster to lose their capacity. Initial stabilization and filtration (if any of them were there) go in a certain direction. And this if something does not burn at all.
The light movement of the hand, the power supply into 500W turns … turns … (and this, by the way, is even more or less good budget power supply)
The situation is quite normal when a https://slotland-casino.co.uk/ 500 watt unit is good if it can work normally at 300. Moreover, working in "greenhouse conditions", it is not at all the fact that he will live happily and happily. Cheap capacitors will not become expensive and durable since then.
And this is again about that yellow handsome. How good it is, damn
Next will go purely my personal opinion
For me landmarks There are products of three firms and three price segments:
-2-3 thousand rubles For the budget there is FSP. This is a very old office, which in the budget segment sells long -outed BP. They have poor efficiency, mediocre stabilization and they give out the power much less than the declared. But they are assembled from more or less decent components. For budget and office assemblies – it is. Risks that it will die not one, but in the company – a minimum and there is a certain durability and stability of work.
-5-10 thousand Seasonic is located on the opposite side. These are major blocks, with a large margin. But this office does not make trash (for the most part). If you have a top -iron assembly, don’t get a good block to be confident in tomorrow.
-3-5 thousand Well, somewhere in the middle there is chieftec. And the middle segment, in my opinion, is the most interesting with them. They have a tangible margin. They have savings on components. But only in moderation. There is nothing more to add.
Now about how to put this information in practice. I recall once again, purely landmarks are indicated above. This is not a recommendation for buying. And this does not apply to kilowetzers and completely top -end decisions. You put your eyes on an interesting power supply. You liked reviews and comments. So compare them with the reviews of power blocks of these companies at about the same price. These offices are quite old and famous. With a good reputation and acceptable pricing policy. Other blocks can be better. But if on paper they Significantly Better – this is a serious reason to study the issue more closely. Maybe some newly made brand works for a reputation and now there is a real chance to purchase a good BP for a good price. But most often, this is not the case.
Unfortunately, the reviews cannot be fully trusted. So, if you would like to see specific examples and tips, then they will not be here. Even the old methods of selection by weight, grill and certificates are now defended by marketers. Well, except for weight. But now any block will seem a fluff against a background of some old Lite-on 250 watts. And walk with an electronic store around the store, open the boxes and weigh blocks – then entertainment.
For example, take the infamous Aerocool VX500.
Here is an excerpt from the “review” from one is very known the site:
But similar, but with a much less famous Kazakh site. You might think that cunning Kazakhs simply push the Chinese block into the masses, but at least these blocks disassembled and demonstrated the insides, and in the “review” they limited themselves to stingy graphs (still, because in the “competitors” there was FSP PNR):
User reviews correspond. From positive – bought it works. To negative – there is no APFC, does not give out the declared power, it burns, I bought shit.
In general, think for yourself, decide for yourself if this is so good for power supply
Just carefully evaluate and weigh the options, so that then not to bite your elbows. In fact, choosing a decent PSU is not so difficult. As in principle, collect a decent computer whole. Not the best, do not flatter yourself, but good. Compare the reviews, critically evaluate them, pay attention to the price and do not believe in miracles. This is almost all that is needed.
UPD: If anyone else reads it, take into account the date of creation of the blog! Prices for "decent" PSU increased significantly!
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Of course. They live with this, don’t worry. Just need to be periodically observed with doctors. Haloperidol will help. )
Each time Aerocoll Kcas shoves the assembly, Green Paper is sad somewhere
I recently bought myself Seasonic S-12 II at 520 watts, so far satisfied, sort of like a good BP
Thanks for the promotion of knowledge to the masses!
As the years of experience showed (I fix everything), the best way to buy the best for your money is to have an idea of the alleged conditions for using the computer, and in the appendage to this, to have at least the basic understanding of the internal device of the same PSU. In the VX-550 there are capacitors designed for a temperature of 85 degrees from the ASIA-X company, the first request in Google about which in the form of “Asia-X Capacitor” issues a video on how this capacitor explodes, and the second link leads to a forum where all sorts of horseradish condensers are discussing. Relative to the issue with understanding, you can, for example, know about Nippon Chemi-Con capacitors, which are not afraid of 100 degrees, but BP with such an elemental base will be more expensive, but it should be understood that a high-quality power supply is such a thing that can survive all other iron in the assembly and enter the basis of the following. Of course, not only capacitors of the PSU are assessed, but this is in most cases the main candidates for failure.
This is so, an addition to the blog.
I have a bronze TR2 RX Thermalmia on 650 watts and gives 624 watts on a 12 volt line, tell me, Dr. ZDD, I will live?
I will say this: 50% of the total Aerocool is bright candy wrappers with khren-pomi-kaku filling.
Neither Strike-X, nor KCAS, or even more so the VX series-you should not. I got into the elasticity with these blocks and I will say this, it is better to take any FSP than to contact Aerocool’s.
Well, there is also kcas – they say the same junk. I won’t say for Hero. Maybe everything is fine with him, but Junfu capacitors also evoke bad thoughts.
In general, the material is not written badly. True, I think it would be worth mentioning about virtual lines +12V and how to look at how much the maximum load may have on each line. There, of course, the school formula is used i = p: u (current (a) = power (w): voltage (v)), but someone may not know.
Unfortunately, you can’t know everything and everywhere. And even approximately understand how it works. Oh, about the fact that the goods choose without determining what they are needed for, I’m generally silent. Ordinary everyday life. But have an idea of the dwarfish gnomes that live inside the electrical appliances, and why their dear representatives work better and better, what it gives and how to care for the device so that it does not leave the sacred black smoke of microcircuits-should now be absorbed with mother’s milk.
I go on the SG, and then someone scolds the BP of the company that I use (I have VX-550). But before you run to the store for new PSU, I would like to know where your knowledge about computer technology comes from from? How much you yourself are inquired in electronics?
As far as I remember, the VX-500 there is generally a fun topic. That famous site made a review of the first revision of the BP, which was really not bad for its money. And about half a year later-the year Aryokul completely changed the filling of the PSU, leaving the old name. They even have stupid equipment, the box and appearance changed, and it was the second and other audits that is the complete shit from under the horse, on which I personally got burned, it didn’t even give out 300 watts along the 12V line (despite the fact that the first option has just that option and still works fine).
By the way. How safe it is to clean from dust with a vacuum cleaner, without the ability to work on blowing, coullers, video cards, hard drives, power supplies and RAM?
PSU is like a fuel for a car if a good wheelbarrow travels without breakdowns for a long time (if you do not swell) if the bad stretches out for a long time in the way muffled part of the important components. There are many protection against cheaps on the top gland.
Reasonably. But with this thing there is confusion. If you look at the screenshide of the stickers with HIPRO, then there are two lines 12V 22A (12*22 = 264), which gives 528W in total, not 430W. Well, as far as do not twist, the numbers do not converge. Therefore, there is a simple mathematics do not get rid of. Much more detailed analysis is required.
And besides this, a lot of things can be told. Although about the same certificates 80+, for which they are needed and what benefits from them. But the meaning of this note is not to teach the user to understand the PSU, even at the general level, but just an appeal to the mind when choosing this BP itself and generally components. I don’t encroach on more.
But, of course, any additions in the comments are strictly welcome.
That’s right, there is no confusion, the maximum load on one virtual line is not equal to half the maximum load on both lines. This is necessary to understand what equipment can be hung on one line and which one on the second.
This is for people understanding. But this is the point. We need explanations that you, in fact, give. Now imagine that you do not really know anything about it at all. But here you were informed about the formula for calculating the current strength and restriction of loading along the lines. Here you have found a label on the PSU, where it is written about 12V1 and 12V2. And 6 bundles of wires come out of the PSU … We must explain and for this. But in the end, it still turns out that the lines are already more or less distributed among the main consumers and in order not to overload the line you need to know how many consumers are separately eating. And so on.
Well, I just did not completely disclose the topic as part of the commentary. It’s not convenient for me from my cell phone to do it)